MARSTONS BAILIFF GROUP - Could we please draw attention to all people visiting this website, Marston's or any bailiff... ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOMES, re: a CSA/CMEC debt without first being invited. If this has never happened, they CANNOT force entry.. Please do not be frightened by bullying and threatening letters.
To be clear, if the bailiffs have never had access to your home by invite (an open door or window can be seen as an invite) Then they CANNOT FORCE ENTRY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES READ THE FULL FACTS HERE
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Welcome to A Fairer CSA For All
A Warm Welcome to A Fairer CSA for All. Please feel free to look around our website and join us in the forum; we are sure you will find what you are looking for. Sadly some of you will be joining us under desperate circumstances, we recognise this and want to help and support you through this difficult stage of your life. If you can’t find what you’re looking for then pull up a chair, grab a coffee and join us in the Forum. We won’t have to convince you our members are the best group on the World Wide Web, you will discover that yourself. We have committed and dedicated parents with us all with the same aspirations...... To get a fairer system in place.
Please read about our Proposals, Aims and Goals by clicking HERE.
HOW OUR GROUP CAME TO BE
Whilst being members of another discussion forum, two of us were horrified at the situation parents, both resident and non resident, and their families, find themselves in when dealing with the Child Support Agency, which is part of the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP).
Ironically, we are all to believe that the purpose of the CSA/CMEC is, to ensure the welfare of our children. Sadly in some of cases, this could not be further from the truth.
Agency non performance and actions have a detrimental effect on the very reasons the CSA /CMEC exists ~ our children.
In many cases non resident parents (NRP) acquire hefty arrears, not through being non compliant, but due to Agency delays and errors.
Also, many parents with care who do have genuine non compliant ex's or 'deadbeat dads', due to years of Agency neglect have failed to receive any Child Support.
In April 2008, 'afairercsaforall' was launched as a forum based support group for BOTH parents.
Despite poor 'search engine' rankings, in only 5 months the forum had a 376 strong and growing membership of PWC, NRP and their partners.
Since our launch, not only has membership grown, our dedicated team has also increased and we all give our time freely.
We firmly believe that a fairer Child Support (CS) system is needed for ALL ~ something which CSCS (CS1) and CS2 both failed to achieve. Unfortunately, the new Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission (CMEC), also seems to be heading down the same route for failure.
OUR PURPOSE
'afairercsaforall' forum offers FREE impartial help, advice, support and general information to ALL parents involved with the CSA/CMEC, regardless of whether a case is on CS1 or CS2, on matters including; Maladministration, Delays, Mistakes, Arrears, Phasing, Child Support Law, The Child Support Act, Enforcement Action ~ Liability Orders (LO), Deduction of Earnings Order (DEO), Bailiff Action and rules, requesting Data Protection Files (DPF) and how to complain. A variety of other topics including; Tax Credits and Bankruptcy are also covered.
There is also a Campaign Section ~ we are not extremists. However, if talking does not work and members choose to take direct action, as a group, we WILL go with the majority ~ together, unite for fair change!
Are you, or somebody you know affected by the CSA/CMEC? Need help and advice? Take a look and join our forum, there are others in the same position, come and get the support you need!
Please take the time to read through the information included on this site. There is no fiction, just facts ~ The deprivation, poverty and despair are real.
From members and friends of 'afairercsaforall' Proud to be supporting 'The end child poverty Campaign'
FOR THE ATTENTION OF THE GOVERNMENT
Our group requires the UK Government to recognise that the current Child Support system is unfair and flawed on many levels. As a group, we are represented by PWC and NRP, all with a common cause. We are not extreamists and will happily meet with CSA/CMEC representatives, Legislators and/or Law makers to discuss the systems flaws, in an attempt to quite simply achieve a fair, balanced system for ALL parents and more importantly ALL children caught up in the trauma of relationship breakdown.
Please read about our Proposals, Aims and Goals by clicking HERE.
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MP's EXPENSES
Recent revelations over the past few weeks, establish why the House of Commons opposed the disclosure of details pertaining to MP's expense claims, and why they fought long and hard to prevent such.
Simple greed, desire and creative accountancy from those concerned, who are in a trusted, privileged position, that have manipulated their expenses claims, funded by the British taxpayer. In the present financial climate, when their constituents are suffering financially, there is little wonder why such revelations leave the taxpayer, the unemployed, the elderly, etc, with such a foul taste in their mouth.
Earning a basic salary of approx £65,000 pa, and in the position to vote themselves a pay rise, MP's can also claim 'Additional Costs Allowance' (a flexible set of rules designed by themselves), which states expenses should be 'reasonable' and ‘wholly, exclusively and necessarily’ a cost of their role as an MP.
Reported 'expense claims' range from an 88p bath plug - £118,000 for expenses at a second home, including stereo equipment, extensive redecoration and a pair of Kenyan carpets - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/n...nvestigated-by-the-Telegraph.html the link shows thousand of pounds of tax payers money being spent improving 'properties', when sold not only have the profits been retained by the MP concerned, they have escaped paying Capital Gains Tax.
Remarks made by MP's and Ministers such as "discrepancies were clerical errors", "'within the rules", "The system is flawed. it needs changing" - Sadly for years, these comments echo our own, and that we are victims of the same, Taxpayers, Pensioners, the unemployed and Parents, alike.
'afairercsaforall' are gravely concerned that some of our members, who are compliant, due to CSA/CMEC maladminstration, errors and delays, find themselves with accrued arrears, owed to Secretary of State, which are being collected at 30-40% of their nett income, regardless of whether they can afford to live. In some cases parallel enforcement action and Bailiffs are also employed to remove their belongings.
How honorable and moral?
http://www.petition.co.uk/publish_mp_expenses_in_full This petition is co-created by Heather Brooke, the Freedom of Information Campaigner who won a High Court victory over the Parliamentary authorities to force the release of MPs’ expenses details, and the www.taxpayersalliance.com, Britain’s independent campaign for lower taxes and better government.
Other related links http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/ More details from petition creator ; There are many reasons why we might want Brown to resign, but rather than having lots of narrow petitions on this topic (most of which have been rejected), I wanted one for all of us.












Lets help the others to get
Lets help the others to get these noses out the trough. We can start by signing petitions, commenting on media columns etc. We need a general election NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
STATEMENT - FOR YOUR ATTENTION
STATEMENT - FOR YOUR ATTENTION
'afairercsaforall' HAS BEEN PUBLICLY ACCUSED BY 'deadbeat dads association' AND 'DWP Corruption' OF BEING GOVERNMENT/CSA INFILTRATORS' - IN OTHER WORDS, WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE UK GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS ALLEGATION WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY.
HOWEVER, NEITHER ACCUSER FEELS THE NEED TO OFFER ANY PROOF, TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR ACCUSATIONS.
WE ARE FULLY AWARE THAT THE AFORESAID PARTIES, CONTINUE TO PROMOTE DISPARAGEMENT AGAINST US, AND HAVE INFACT MADE FURTHER/OTHER UNTRUE ACCUSATIONS.
BOTH FOUNDERS OF 'afairercsaforall' TOTALLY REFUTE THE ALLEGATIONS MADE BY THE AFORESAID GROUPS, AND ARE DISCUSSING THE MATTER WITH SOLICITORS - DEFAMATORY ALLEGATIONS ARE A SERIOUS MATTER AND A PROSECUTABLE OFFENCE.
WE CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THESE ISSUES HAVE ARISEN DUE TO US, ENFORCING NO 'CONTRIBUTION' CHARGE FOR MEMBERSHIP AND HAVING AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION AS AN ADVISE/SUPPORT GROUP. "deadbeatdads" DISAGREE WITH US ASSISTING RESIDENT, AS WELL AS NON RESIDENT PARENTS, WITHIN OUR MEMBERSHIP - WE AT afairercsaforall BELIEVE THE CSA/C-MEC ARE UNFIT FOR PURPOSE, FOR ALL PARENTS.
ALSO, WE RECENTLY REFUSED TO COLLUDE WITH 'DWP Corruption' WHEN THEY ASKED US TO "MAKE A 'CORRUPTION' VIDEO" WITH THEM.
IT APPEARS THAT UNLESS WE ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH BOTH GROUPS ISSUES REGARDING THE GOVERNMENT, THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO DISPARAGE AND DISCREDIT US. HOWEVER, WE CONFIRM, WE HAVE NO WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER GROUP, IN ANY WAY.
WE ASSURE OUR MEMBERS THAT THIS MATTER WILL NOT AFFECT THE SUPPORT AND ADVICE WE OFFER - OUR MEMBERS WILL REMAIN OUR MAIN PRIORTY DURING ANY LEGAL COURSE WE TAKE. THANK-YOU
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The following link has been drawn to our attention …
http://www.informationtribunal.gov.uk/DBFiles/Decision/i133/Hossak.pdf (dated 18.12.07)
Interesting reading, considering the unfounded accusations that have been made by the parties concerned, especially the continued use of the word ‘vexatious’, and comments such as;
’scattering his allegations of corruption broadly’,
‘aggressive, threatening and abusive’,
‘Appellant’s purpose was to argue and even harangue’,
‘deluded sense of the importance of the issues at stake.’,
‘he makes an unpleasant and personal attack on the conduct and integrity of the solicitor conducting the case..’
Its goes on to say..
‘In our view, far from a campaigner for truth and justice on
behalf of the public, as Mr ******* portrays himself, he is more correctly described
as pursuing an unreasonable obsession.’
deduction order direct for wages
its a long story but I was the PWC and the CSA completely failed me by collecting payments from the NRP - my ex-partner I believe strongly convinced our daughter to live with him, even though he had paid no monies to me, he has taken me to CSA which I had disputed now the CSA are deducting 40% of my monthly wage so I am left 655.00 to pay mortgage, bills, etc., etc., now I do not have the money for fares to work, I am in a desparate situation, I did try to negotitiate with the CSA but they do not care, they have taken away my basic human right for food and warmth. I am not a young woman I am 53, and this is all too distressing, I even contacted my local MP but he had not joy. This agency should be abolished and a fairer means tested system put in place, what really leaves a bad taste in my mouth, is that not once did they harrass my ex partner for monies owed to me, but they have come down on me like a ton of bricks. Does anyone have any suggestions how I get this deductions order released from my wages.
Hi Anita
If you register over at the forums and post the above you will receive advice and support from some knowledgable members. We also have CSA staff on board who can also give you advice.
http://afairercsaforall.myfanforum.org/index.php
Regards
help
thanks I will do what you have suggested, I contacted the csa yesterday and I explained that i was not able to afford my fares to work or food, basic human needs, I was told to try and borrow some money off of family members!!!!!!!! I was also told that they are debt collecting agency and there could be no negotiations with this ridiculous 40%, I told her that the majority of debt collecting agencies are alwasy willing to negotiate, she could not even tell me how and when the 40% was actually put in place. The national press need to be told and also the human courts of appeal.
MEDIA INTEREST - CAN YOU HELP?
We have two separate requests from the media.
1) Any NRP being put into financial difficulty……………… Poverty or unable to pay day to day bills examples being Mortgage/rent….. power supplies…. Travel to work……… food
Any NRP/NRPP thinking of ending current relationship due to CSA pressure
Any NRP struggling on 40% deductions WITHOUT negotiation
2) “I am a journalist looking into the new policy of chasing dads for money to cover benefit payments given to their wives, even though they paid for and supported their children throughout that period.
I would like to speak to someone about this and highlight something that I think is going largely unnoticed.”
- If you would like to be involved, please join us in the forum.
Media interest
i would be happy to let the media know of my case with the CSA. I was in arrears by £300 through no fault of mine, but the CSA. I paid my CSA on time and the amount agreed by CSA. Anyway in Jan 2009, i contacted the CSA stating i cannot pay the arrears in one lump but would be happy to pay extra over the next 3-4 months to clear the arrears. I mentioned that if i had to pay
in one lump them i would be arrears in my Mortgage payment (which is still joint and i'm having to pay). They said that's not their problem. Then they asked me to pay by credit card. i'm sure that asking me to pay CSA by credit card is actually illegal.
Hi Dev!
If you register over at the forums and post the above you will receive advice and support from some knowledgable members. We also have CSA staff on board who can also give you advice.
Arabella
Story about S/E who work the system
How about this one as these are the scum of society who cause the problems for others who are paying for their children?
Hi!
If you register over at the forums and post the above you will receive advice and support from some knowledgable members. We also have CSA staff on board who can also give you advice.
I am paying csa as a DOE this
I am paying csa as a DOE this is for arrears they had all ready told me had been sold of to a debt collector.With no overtime at work i have been left with around £755 a month.My new partner does not work we have a child together and she has 2 children to a previous relationship.A real struggle and we have even suggested we would be better of if we split up,as we are finding it hard to get by with no help as any benefits are based on gross pay.Have noticed that the csa have a law that what they say goes.
Hi Banginghead Welcome! Have
Hi Banginghead
Welcome! Have you registered on the forum? Lots of advice there, from people who've experienced the same and also advice from csa/cmec experts.
Fantastic SITE
Hi All , i am new to this forum,
just wanted to say what an excellent site,
i have been fighting the CSA for approx 6 years now over mis-calculations , i have managed to get an arrears amount down from 17k to 3k and am still trying to get a new break down of accounts.
The Independant Case Examiner is investigating the CSA for the 2nd time , The first time all my complaints were upheld by the ICE, It is worth getting a copy of all the data the CSA have on you via their data Protection people. You can then see what they have and are using against you the battle is easier to fight .
Dont let the CSA bully you and keep up the fight .
there are lots and lots of ways to put a spoke in the wheels of this poor managed machine called the CSA. interesting note i brought up with the Independant Case Examiner , i read the report made before the Goverment by ICE on the CSA 2006/2007 , the report found many failings in the CSA . i recently read the 2007/2008 report made to Goverment by the new head of ICE and it states how well the CSA are completing their Tasks, Has the CSA changed for the better??? not in my dealings with them. Are ICE who are suppose to be independant now in bed with the CSA ??.
Welcome aboard
Glad the site is of use to you...
Not only ice, but is the courts sharing that bed too!!! Its a worry, but it seems the courts have no power
i asked the question to ICE
i asked the question to ICE last week ,
"How many successful legal actions have been taken against the CSA"
I was told by the ICE "as far as they were aware NONE"
does that not say it all
A Fairer CSA for All
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Well done
Well done and keep up the good work. I have seen a differnet side to the CSA and I don't like it at all.
Great site.